Ania Rodriguez on Five Celebrity Archetypes Every CX Leader Needs

What can Oprah, Lady Gaga, Richard Branson, Mark Cuban, and Taylor Swift teach CX leaders about influencing the C-suite?
Ania Rodriguez returned with a fresh way to think about connecting with stakeholders, avoiding the hero's trap, and moving from buy-in to real alignment.
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Originally aired May 28, 2025 as Episode 137 of The Trusted Guide Podcast (then The Delighted Customers Podcast).
What we cover
Five celebrity archetypes and what each teaches about influence
Avoiding the hero's trap
Moving from buy-in to organizational alignment
Alignment beats buy-in
Buy-in is passive. Alignment means people act. Ania's archetypes give leaders memorable ways to get there.
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About the guest
Ania Rodriguez is founder and CEO of JourneyTrack and founder of Key Lime Interactive, and has advised brands including Google, Cisco, Amazon, Meta, and Disney.
If this conversation was useful, you'll find more like it in The Trusted Guide Newsletter: practical insights on trust, influence, and leading change.


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